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Gone and went soft...
Oct 29 2007, 11:10 PM EDT
Aah...Mia, you lost your nerve...all that bravado and oops...it's gone. Don't you know Daddy will take your side no matter what. That's alright little sister, chalk this one up to lessons learned and leave the hijinks, Hank and champagne to the older women who know how to handle it. You'll grow up soon enough honey, and this experience will provide great insight. Maybe you won't screw it up next time.
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1. RE: Gone and went soft...
Nov 4 2007, 1:55 AM EDT
I'm guessing you bathed in Mia's weakness but with a lesson to learn from. Kinda rare coming from a woman on this site, mad cool. I find Mia so twisted and interesting almost as much as Hank. Are you routing for her while she learns the hard way? I think the champagne would have made the truth easier but her locking eyes with Becca swayed her. You called her "sister", why?
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2. RE: Gone and went soft...
Nov 4 2007, 3:18 AM EST
Mia and I a kindred spirits, all women are even those who refuse to admit it. We all know the struggle to gain power over our lives, to define ourselves by our standards and not that of a male-dominated society. In that sense I am so cheering for Mia. I am so dismayed that young women believe that their power lies in their misguided perception of male-defined sex appeal of women in general. As of women of forty-one I KNOW that I need a man to find me attractive not only sexual, but emotionally as well. I crave the same as Mia, the love and approval of a man or men. Before I get all kinds of hate mail...let me finish...I cheer for Mia because I have felt her pain and I know her struggle to find that balance between defining her own self-worth and the impulsive requirement that she be loved by a man.
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Redidona |
3. RE: Gone and went soft...
Nov 4 2007, 3:26 AM EST
To finish my above reply...Californication exemplifies the inner turmoil of of women eloquently and from three generation-defining pespectives. Circumstances and relationships are different for each of the ladies, Karen, Mia and Becca, but the game is the same. That's why Mia stopped short of admitting her dalliances, the same reason that Karen reached out to Mia in the middle of her "I Do's", because despite their sometime desire to hurt each other in pursuit of personal gain, they still know they are kindred spirits...by default...they are all women.
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4. RE: Gone and went soft...
Nov 6 2007, 1:03 AM EST
Hate mail?... Here on wiki?...I think I'm the only one here besides you but I like that. Nice to see you've been checking for a reply on your post... Passion. Now if you posted your passion on the big message board I fear simple minds would run a muck with less emotion. Your balance about Mia and your own life, I can tell, is strong. As a man of thirty-nine I NOW KNOW how to listen and I have found, for once, something worth listening to. We all crave love, approval and a reason. I fear Mia's actions stem from her father's lack of approval, Becca's and Hank's true bond and Hank's dire love for Karen.
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5. RE: Gone and went soft...
Nov 6 2007, 1:20 AM EST
I saw the spirit between Mia and Becca twice. Mia's inner hurt is her reason to hurt others close to her. Hank gave her credit for having young talent but she never heard it and only if she did, I wonder.
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Redidona |
6. RE: Gone and went soft...
Nov 6 2007, 11:01 PM EST
You're right, Hank did give her credit, and I didn't even realize it until you pointed it out. I found it quite telling that her father's refusing to print her book centered upon him. The little nuances that the writers interject are brilliant. What an intriguing relationship they are developing between Hank and Mia...he feels somewhat paternally toward her, yet he has slept with her...he doesn't crush her dreams even though he knows he can...she is drawn to him for reasons that are deeper that than the ruse of her sexual exploits...yes this storyline definitely has some potential.
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7. RE: Gone and went soft...
Nov 8 2007, 9:57 PM EST
That is Mia's inner struggle; her fathers lack of support as well as the lack of the most basic paternal traits vs. Hank, her first love, a vision of paternal desire and shares his love of words. Strong stuff. Hank to me is your Mia. Go ahead, ask me why?
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9. RE: Gone and went soft...
Nov 11 2007, 8:48 PM EST
I cannot stand Mia. The nerve of her to steal Hank's novel and try to pass it off as her own. As a writer, that really pisses me off! She is also a spoiled little stalker wh needs to find a teenager her own age to stalk. And she wants us to believe Hank was her first time? I'm sorry, but my first time I didn't climb on top and ride like a cowgirl -- or punch the crap out of him. I was too busy thinking "ow, ow, ow..."
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Redidona |
10. RE: Gone and went soft...
Nov 12 2007, 12:58 AM EST
Upon first hearing her proclamation of her "first time", I too thought it was hard to believe...but...I'm still not sure if she is telling the truth or not and I'm willing to bet that this is one of the few times that she is actually being honest. Her obsession with Hank hints at her being truthful. As for the riding "like a cowgirl", let's face its, kids today are so much more sophisticated than we were (if you're in the +40 crowd like me). Today's youth are bombarded with sexual undertones in everthing from selling gum to magazine covers, from infancy. Check out the cover of the magazines and the sexually suggestive images and titles next time you're in the check out line at Wal-Mart. Not to mention that most teenages seems much more comfortable with their bodies sexuality than their older counterparts did at the same age. Yeah, it's a little hard to believe but I'm not ruling it out just yet...
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11. RE: Gone and went soft...
Nov 13 2007, 8:57 PM EST
Red....Becca, I couldn't agree more that today's youth( a 16 year old girl/woman/virgin) is more than capable to fuck like what society has feed her as well as the ability to give into her own inner struggle. "In the +40 crowd..." is, I wonder, the key to Mia's madness and into empathy lost or found, why? Age, denial, a writer's symbiotic fear or some twisted jealous sexual desire to find fault or reason for Mia's character becomes your own. Don't be pissed off, Hank Hero, if you're a writer. It's not personal but a comment about society through a character that dares challenge todays norms. The truth is too real and that's the message.
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